Wednesday, March 3, 2010

Friendship starts with a solid foundation

Lee & Liz Conducting Clinic Together

Lee up on her Fox Trotter "Morgan".
I think Lee and I about rode the hair off her horses Morgan and Sara this weekend in her arena.

Liz up on Lee's Fox Trotter "Morgan".



Ours was a friendship started in finding each other in a very lonely place in our passion about horses and helping them.
It was a time when people were pushing hard once again to define and protect the Naturally Gaited TWH. For Lee and I who were primed and ready to serve the cause, but found we saw it different than many others though and it always kept us on the outside of the main body of the movement. I laugh now as it was the time of typewriters and carbon paper and a long distance call was 10 cents a minute so we wrote lots of letters not having the funds for long distance calls, my living in VA and she being in CO.

First and foremost we have always been for the horse, and not in name only. We never ever went the wayward direction and then later claimed to have seen the light and reformed our methods in teaching and working with horses. We always remained clean of using gimmicks and gadgets accepted even in the so called naturally gaited circles.
It was these strict rules set in ourselves that kept us apart of the masses in the movement, we hated the playing of the political games, the manipulations, standing on the grey line was not for either of us.
Soring was not the only unacceptable methods to each of us but so was the fast growth of mechanical manipulation in the flat shod movement.
To us anything less was not acceptable in building character, credibility and self respect in ourselves in which we could live a lifetime with. We saw this in each other and it was what brought our friendship together and made it last the test of time and even through some of the toughest of challenges.
Our own education and sharing it with others was the key for us both, we believe honest straight forward education would empower the horse owners to make the right choices in having success and helping the horses have quality lives at the same time.
Our friendship was not always smooth, we certainly would criticise each other and challenge each other as well.
Lee was tougher than I was and I being 10 years younger was more naive and lacked 10 years of experience that Lee had on me as well . Lee also had a much more advanced academic education than I did.
She worked hard on toughing me up to it all and she said I helped her soften her edges as well.
We would argue but not as silly school girls but with true passion in disagreements in definitions or applications in training refinement. Sometimes we worked them out and came to a consensus and sometimes we didn't, and it was accepted by each of us when this would happen it just took awhile sometimes. This also is what created that rock solid respect for each other.

I feel the biggest challenge to our friendship was the coming of the computer age though, when e-mail and chat lists came in to being. This was the perfect venue to reach large numbers of people seeking help. The hole in it all was often the opportunist would pretty much suck us dry at times and also worked at putting us against each other as well, sometimes it worked too until we figured out the games they were playing. In the end it always came back in that we both knew we had the same foundation in our passion and naughty people could not even break that and a phone call to each other would bring about the truth in each matter.
Lee's passing has been a challenge in many ways, first in my own guilt of not getting to her in time.
My last e-mail from her on Feb. 15th was as follows:

"i will be needing home hospice care very soon. can't stand walk or talk now-- nott a good way to die, by inches. only one fing er works to type. "

It is just as she typed it, upon receiving it I called and asked if she wanted me to come. Her answer was yes and I made the reservation to fly out for the 6th of March being the soonest I could not leave the ranch here due to a difficult load of training clients, not the horses, but the owners at that time. I was 4 days to late getting to her. The pleasing of those clients was not worth the guilt I carry still.
Second in that I have not had her to work with, to stand up to the poor horse handling/training practices that just keep rearing their ugly heads and always will. Two voices are always better than one when you speak the same language in being honest, real and for the right reason.
Third and lastly is this last 6 month I now find I am having to fight to keep her legacy of education going in that there has been some action in trying to bury it.
So as I close in this blog post that may bore many, but is a release of thoughts for myself I will say Lee's work is timeless. It's not about being in fashion, politically correct but of true experience and her own self discipline to get it right and never hold back anything to help others, even if she had to scream once in a while to get her message across.
I my self am still learning from her and value the friendship we had that is also timeless in that it was also real, honest and solid in it's foundation.
My wish for everyone is able to learn the difference between a true friendship and what an acquaintance is. There is a world of difference in knowing just one true friend means so much more than a million acquaintances in a life time.

Liz Graves
copyright 2010









Monday, February 15, 2010

Ok Thats it, More Snow!!!!!

Frosty your not welcome  here till next winter.
We give, we have had enough!


Thursday, February 11, 2010

All articles contained are in PDF files so an Acrobat reader program will be needed to view.

Lee's Work has been compiled for the Public

This had been a huge undertaking, done in a rather short amount of time.
The push was from a very heart felt statement made by Lee's Mother in that she said" We don't buy green bananas any more".
We did not get it done in time for the Lt. Col.s birthday but we were close.
It is their dream to see her work always made available to the public in as complete as form as possible.
Although we had hoped it could be done through her web site it was not to be.
Since her old Domain name has been made open to public offers for purchase,Lee's parents did make an offer but the counter offer was $18,000.00 which made it impossible.
So the above link to her work is what we came up with to make their dream possible.

There are people to thank as well for making this possible:
Lee Ziegler's Parents first and foremost.
The Law Firm I use in that they did a part of the work needed Pro bono.
The Owners and Editors of Gaited Horse Magazine
David Genadek for his long nights of work creating the graphics and putting all her work together on the web page.

Lee Ziegler's Classroom will remain available on the web in that the legal arrangements have been made through my estate that all management and funding will be maintained well after I am ashes to the wind myself.
Please note for those negative thinkers, that no outside contributions were accepted for this, but will be funded through what I have contributed to my estate souly.

Additions to the knowledge base will continue in that Lee was a writer and did a lot of work that was not published. As I can go through all her files and compile more of her work we will be adding it to her Classroom.

Liz
Copyright 2010

Saturday, February 6, 2010

The photo above is from my flower bed last year and I post it for all those on the east coast getting blasted with the snow storm to think Spring!

I have a new article up on the "articles page" of my web site at our new URL being www.lizgraves.org

Also can be found on the articles page are many You Tube videos .

The "Gaits and Conformation Standards of the Natural Tennessee Walking Horse" can also be found on the same page as well as our home page now.

All the article's now also work and we have received permission to publish all article's written for Gaited Horse Magazine on the site as well.

You will also find all dates and details on the clinics page updated and corrected.

There is now a link to a slide show of photos under elephant photo on the home page.

The reason for this URL change is that the last 8 years we have been paying for the lizgraves.com domain name,yet the manager of that site did not register it in our name , we are working to correct that also.

We still have a lot more work to do on the site but the major things have been addressed and all updates now can be done here at the ranch in a timley manner.

Liz


Tuesday, February 2, 2010


Oh Those Saddle Whoa's Again!

The above video is an ad for Dave's educational sessions at the Iowa Horses Fair this year. These are not about selling saddles, but pure, real education to empower the horse owner in their choices.

I am working on a rather lengthy article once again on all those troubles plaguing the horse owners on saddle fit which I work with in my travels !

Most know I endorse no saddles brands, not even Dave's. It's not about what the saddles out there are or are not but a matter of ethics on my part in knowing there are to many variables to do so. Each horse and owner combination must be addressed on an individual case basis.

I DO though endorse those that put forth honest, real education to help the horse owner learn, so I do endorse Dave's educational program. He also now teaches large groups around the world Via webinars on line. When he teaches at clinics, horse fairs and through his webinars he is not selling saddles. You can schedule the webinars at http://www.aboutthehorse.com/

I'm amazed at the myths and those even put forth by those representing themselves as experts.

Here is the start, and that's to stop relying on just wanting someone, anyone, to tell you what to use. The most common asked question I am asked, even when having no indication what what they have in the horse they own.

You cant fit a horse you have not seen in some type of media, if not in the very flesh.

The biggest tool I can give you is "GET EDUCATED" to understand it yourself. It's not rocket science in the basics. The horse owner actually has the easy part, yet getting folks to actually learn and understand the basics seems hard to get them to do.

The tough stuff is development in manufacturing, if it's a manufacture that is actually caring about fit and function to horse and rider. Not just regurgitating the terminology they have learned from those before them, most of it plagiarized material in which they redefine to make their own with no clear understanding, just make it sound great and look like a saddle!

I know the the funds spent here in Dave's research and development exceed $100,000.00 to date.

So hopefully this new article will not be much longer in its final state and I will post here when it's complete. I so feel each and every persons frustration on this topic and we just have to make it better for the horse owner and the horse.

Liz Graves

Copyright 2010

Sunday, January 31, 2010




Here is a fun Artistic Saddle Dave Made with Coy fish
carved on it for Gypsy Vanner
Bo Bo and partner Mark Knie
Liz


Thursday, January 28, 2010

Notice
We do apologize for the current problems with our web site http://www.lizgraves.com/ .
The situation is out of our control even with efforts to get it back to being updated regularly and errors corrected.
We are currently working to have this situation rectified and hope to have this done next week.
Please for those working scheduling dates and availability with us for clinics,training, internships etc., please e-mail me directly at lizgraves@centurytel.net and I will provide any and all information requested.
As to all those that have e-mailed over the loss of Lee Ziegler's web site last year. Her parents and my self have spoken on how this may be rectified but have no answers to that as of yet. Dave and I have both been researching and making calls as to what can be done to bring it back. It's just out of our hands right now and are very sad about the loss of a part of her legacy to all of us and a resource too so much valuable information. I will write more about this on the anniversary of her passing in March, but we have not given up as of yet.
Thank you so much for your patience.
Liz Graves